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Thu, 10/29/2009 - 06:48 — brendanmarie

Hi all. I'm new to this forum but have been making soy container candles for a while. I use Golden Wax 464 along with Candle Science fragrance oils and liquid dyes. For the most part my candles have been coming out nicely - smooth tops, good adhesion to the jars, and great scent throw, but I was having a good bit of frosting. After a little research, I decided to try to heat the wax to 185-190 to add the FO and dye, and then cool down to about 120-125 to pour. I still had frosting on some of my candles, but what's worse is the tops were terribly rough and pitted. It seems the cooler I pour, the rougher the tops. Any suggestions to reduce frosting while maintaining smooth tops?

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Sat, 01/30/2010 - 14:35 — thebrokenbarn

Frosting

You are using a more pure form of soy wax...frosting is a natural characteristic of soy wax...some waxes have additives to help reduce frosting and you will pay a lot more for their wax then what your paying for the 464 or 444...

You can try to add a spoon of solid cooking oil like crisco to your wax to help with the frosting and it's supose to help make them smoother, and since it's made from soybeans your not adding anything harsh to your product. I have never used this method, I don't mind the frosting and since it doesn't change the quality of the candle or how it will burn it is just one more step I find not neccessary. I have even had customers say they thought it looked decorative and kinda cool how it was different all the way around.

The plus side to the frosting is you can always inform your customers that the frosting is the sign of a Natural Soy candle...

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Kerri
www.thebrokenbarn.net

Fri, 01/01/2010 - 03:33 — daring

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Thu, 10/29/2009 - 12:41 — morethanrubies

I had the very same question,

I had the very same question, I recently switched from parasoy to 464 and am having issues with frosting. I did notice that if I paid careful attention to shutting the heat off right at 185, putting in the dye and FO - remove from heat and pour at 1t 140ish then I have had less frosting.

My other issues are these:

1. the candles that are not frosting - when I burn them, a discolored ring appears where the melt pools was. For example I have a lemon creme i am testing, it is a nice golden pale yellow, after doing the first test burn and achieving a full melt pool, once the candle cooled off there was a distinctive difference in color from the melted wax and the not yet melted wax. It changed from a pretty creamy yellow to a dingy offwhite. Is this normal? I never seen that with parasoy.

2. I was using wicks from wholesale supplies plus - the simply soy for my 16 oz apothecary jars. After burning a candle half way down - I had a dapple residue still left on the edges of the jar. So I switched to double wicks - the ECO 10s per candle science recommendation and it seems to be working ok but I get a full melt pool really fast - should that be happening? Thanks so much!

Mon, 11/16/2009 - 18:53 — brendanmarie

Thanks for the advice about

Thanks for the advice about pouring temps, morethanrubies. I'll be sure to try that technique. Sorry for replying so late - been busy. As for your other questions - regarding the discoloration, I'm really not sure what could be causing that since I haven't experienced it. What kind of dye are you using? Liquid, dye chips? I use liquid dye from candlescience. About the ECO 10s, that's what I use, and they seem to burn well for me. How fast are you getting a full melt pool? Is it shortening your total burn time?